Tuesday, 22 February 2011

Trads to the Back of the Bus

Another great piece from Linen on the Hedgerow which highlights the dreadful way the Tridentine Mass is treated in all too many dioceses, despite the Pope's wishes.

We are all, as Catholics, missing out on a wonderful gem from Heaven's treasury by sidelining the beautiful 'event' that is the Tridentine Mass.

Even non-Catholics like Agatha Christie recognised its beauty and cultural importance.

Of course for us Catholics it means so much more, raises our very minds, hearts and souls to Heaven and in its most profound form (solemn High Mass) in a traditional setting or in the ruins of a former Catholic shrine etc. it makes one realise, most profoundly, how connected we are to the rest of the Church (Militant, Suffering and Triumphant) and that, in that very real sense, we are just one small part of the Church which is much bigger and leads inexorably to heaven and the Beatific Vision, which calls all of us, despite our fallen nature, to be Saints.


  1. If you cant say something nice you shouldnt say anything at all.obediance and humility are the only apropriate public attitudes instead of complaining praise the good and privatley lobby for what you desire.

  2. Believe it or not but I am quite a humble person - there is very little for me personally to be proud about. RE. obedience I do not feel I have been disobediant. The Pope desires the spread of the beautiful Latin mass, it edifies those who attend it, brings graces to parishes, and was defended to the death by so many Saints and Martyrs. If it is disobediant to glory in this gem of the Church, for the sake of the Church, then might not those who fought to uphold the Altars of Europe as they were being ripped apart in the name of progress [aka the reformation] not also be called disobediant.

    We must remember that many local Bishops in England & Wales took henry's shilling. The faithful did not know if their Mass was catholic or not as subtle changes came in bit by bit, as altars were replaced with tables over the decades etc.

    Were the first Recusants being disloyal? They too tried to be lotyal to the Pope as the Mass changed around them.

    Our Pope wishes the Latin Mass to have greater impact, so in being joyous at the nature of that very Mass [which brings more Graces to a single parish than i ever could achieve as long as i live] may i humbly ask HOW i am being disobedient and to whom?

    being "nice" can be worthwhile while the world is "nice" but as Catholics we should know that the world is rarely "nice" and certainly when it comes to abuses, injustices, or even mass murder -- are we honour bound to be "nice," or to speak out in the hope that even one person might sit and read, and become a better person and, dare I say it, a better Catholic?

    As a humble Catholic with no influence (getting my children to listen to their old dad can be hard enough ;-) ) and very rarely managing to convey my thoughts in words that the influential may take seriously, i could not "privately lobby" even if i knew where to begin.

    I suppose 'privately lobbying' any errant wanderer who comes by this blog is as good as it gets for me ;-)

    Believe me, I have no visions of grandeur or pretences to stardom, even in the shallow and fickle world of the internet; and all I do write is meant in the true meanining of Charity.

  3. The Holy Mass in Latin contains the doctrinal guarantees of the Trent Councils and Pope St Pius V's Papal Bull "Quo Primum" which gave this Rite of Mass to all Roman Catholics "in perpetuum". Not even the liberal Pope Paul VI (RIP) dared to abrogate this Rite. Its first codification was made by Pope St Gregory The Great early in the seventh century. Its foundations took place in the centuries prior to this. The expert on the Roman Rite Fr Adrian Fortesque stated that it has its roots in the early days of The Church when significant portions of The Holy Mass were already in Latin and not only Greek or Aramaic as others have contested.
    Interestingly, the Tridentine Councils and Pope St Pius V actually anathematised vernacular liturgy and any attempts to alter The Holy Mass as they had codified it. It was not a new Rite as some mistakenly claim but a codification of the form dating back to Pope Gregory's time removing a plethora of local usages that had been added on in various places.